china is really in the driver's seat in many respects and this is coming at an awkward time for the united states because united states is clearly a declining power at the same time and president obama isn't helping with that notion this is he tells china to quote behave like a grownup so as the u.s. falls behind them china speeds ahead is this mentality something the u.s. will later regret down the road. and the debt dominoes continue to fall in europe as greece and italy swears on their leadership putting non elected officials in power so is democracy dying in a land that invented it in the first place by. raiding

on their parade from coast to coast police trying to silence occupy protesters by a victory so is this the end of the movement as we know it if not what's next and will there be a leader who steps down taking it to the next level. and it's time to mark an anniversary a full decade of lock up with no rights and no questions asked that's right happy ten years kuantan i'm ok well take a look at some of the best years behind bars and look into why president obama still has not follow through with his promise to shut it down. it is monday november fourteenth five pm in washington d.c. and christine for is out there watching our team. let's begin with a look at the global economy and focus in for a moment on the relationship between the united states and china it seems there's a little bit of a tug of war going on over who should get to write the next chapters in the global

economic rulebook over the weekend of the asia pacific economic cooperation summit both president obama and hu jintao sat at the same table but certainly had some differing ideas about how to move forward the u.s. has been highly critical about china's trade policies and their currency practices in what it views as a too slow appreciation of the you want chinese president hu jintao responded saying first of all the u.s. trade deficit and unemployment rate are not caused by the want exchange rate and also insisted on more influence for beijing as a growing power argy correspondent oksana boyko spent the weekend in honolulu for the conference and lays out some of those differences that have piled up between the two countries if there is any us state where the occupy movement has little chance it's probably how by despite the high concentration of the situations and wall street beat week socialising at the apec summit the only place people are willing to occupy here on the beach is this one exception these pictures tourists

are against greed and social injustice they're against economic inequality and they are against china. who incidentally the mood at the podium was in a little bit hostile i think we can benefit from fred which. certainly to continue cultivating a. constructive relationship with the trying his government. but we're going to continue to be firm in insisting that they operate by the same rules rules rules and again rules as a country that's been ruling the roost for decades the united states has never been shy of policing authors but as china's g.d.p. continues adding nine percent a year against the two and a half percent growth in the u.s. the reprimand seems to be internally driven conformities one of the top values in

the kind of view of the wall also reflected in the country's political and economic policy it's not that china doesn't play by the rules or factually quite the opposite but the united states seems to have an issue with is that increasingly china rule that they pretty much washington would prefer to keep its power as the us president hailed his new free trade asia pacific pact as a win win trade in the region some in china as a predator effort to change rules. free trade and to be. in the eyes of the beholder. it's free for uber protection provided that i get. my precious industries. so it's always. free as the euro crisis continues metastasizing throughout the world and china is asked to shoulder the load many analysts say the

west should keep in mind its old adage about he who pays the piper china is really in the driver's seat in many respects and this is coming at an awkward time for the united states because the united states is clearly a declining power at the same time and is having trouble adjusting to what that means many chinese proverbs are difficult to translate into english here those about money usually have exactly equivalent one of them is money makes the world go round the concept experience will be familiar to washington and progressively so to beijing it's unavoidable are a bit apec summit in honolulu. all right so essentially president obama telling chinese president hu jintao to stop a gaming the system to make the claim field more love or tough stark in front of a pack leaders of our countries by the way i count for more than half of the world's economic output so what will come out of this weekend's meetings is just times correspondent had to ask of ours in sao paulo brazil to give us his take and

our path along more of the words you can call at president obama asking china to play by the rules china thing we don't agree to these rules but in so many there are some real consequences on the economy here what do you think is most concerning about this u.s. china exchange over the weekend look it's like watching the cheating or you know i'm a big fan of chaney's oprah is the other you know one of those emperors from the six six. watching. satrapi from her you know the middle of nowhere begging to respect the rules it's completely absurd because first of all china's right the rules are set up a little worse now that china eve her to. become big american philistia power and conquering the world many fracturing cheap products exported

all of the world and united states instead decided to wage war for all across the world you know in africa as well. what kind of rules are in their right effect and their currency they're not going to the sale of their currency because or burma or biden or the us congress wants it be have a mechanism inside the bank of china which is poor to meet in the gradual devaluation of the euro this is going to happen within the next shortest line of years in its reach a maximum rothbury percent of the us once twenty five percent now it's not going to happen the chinese will dictate live and how in the fall you must devaluation of their currency so what obama's doing splay these it plea to the galleries and save us and also to the republicans who are practically declaring war on iran and then on china if we're watching that as a third later on what about this national i'm talking about president obama's car that china allow its currency to rise faster in guy and in favor of

a president believes that by being kept artificially low this is hurting american companies and johnson in showing the president as the leader of this country if you really believe that try to fight for these jobs and try to make it for something is done about this problem it's not hurting american corporations because american japanese and european kirk relations here are going to china because they are merely factoring some of their best products in china and selling all over the world keeping their profits in a hole spinning cordy's reorganization of the solar system the working classes and the middle classes in the atlanticist morse not only in the us but in europe as well so in terms of banking banking they don't care what china is to effect big one china's money in china same will force the put your house in order in europe in with think about leaders summit in corporations western corporations question they love defected to china do you look allies like crazy in keep their profits so there

is only one loser segments in all this transition into. looking glasses in the lores and you know you just mentioned this and they also sign off on his report g.o.p. presidential candidates taking a dig at china there is sort of a fear mongering that seems to be going on on one side but we also saw michele bachmann comparing the two countries saying in a sense let's get rid of american programs like lyndon johnson's great society bachmann says that this has made the us into a quote welfare state she says if only we were more like china they don't have food stamps they don't they save for their own retirement so badly i guess i want to get an idea from you about some of these different views from potential future leaders of this country and the way they view china. look at every thermo watch the republicans eat my cat runs out of the ruled absolutely terror and they're alive a debate for you know why is it i agree the dollar travel the have no idea of other

cultures they can honor this they should read a little bit of the view strollers for instance when he talks about the other these guys they cannot understand each other the other four event is a trek be it a chinese and muslim an african american you leave it so it a point there what the principle thing is income so for the problems of the us at the moment there will be only the one we can solve part of which would be in terms of. the budget of that answer it's not going to be reduced any time soon because what you've heard ministration me want is not what the generals wants so we're going to have full spectrum dominance war for apple holder and now they are conceptualizing how they're going to lead to war against china even asia as well in the indian ocean and in the south china sea so we should make the connection of what the pentagon wants the long term agenda of what republicans want which is also

the long war the pentagon's long war in logical and ministration would like to achieve at least two as a palliative compared to the problems faced by the middle class in the us there's there's a tool to clash and i'm not sure a bottle had enough time to explain to an american voters how the dick and global economy liquid more thirty years as we speak it nowadays works so relaxed real bravery happier than what the republicans and the president wants to do i'm not sure he can do that in one year and that's what i was going to ask i mean if what you say is there is in fact happening that their presence in the works how much longer do you think u.s. leaders can confirm a things like enough is enough to china. just look at all but a stranger at night look once again his play to the gallows because obviously he's watching the base and sell any of these strongly terrorize it how i'm going to

counteract. this kind of this kind of rhetoric coming from all the republican candidates he's trying to toss as a harvard professor it's not going to work because the american electorate the are in rates they are falling three to all sorts of populist they're not goldson the lack of people among these republican candidates and that we're going to see the rhetoric. within the next few months is going to reach absolutely toller all left and then you're saying you got to remember this these candidates there are there are playing to their base as well is right now is the eric we're out of time have i'm so sorry is the times correspondent have a back and ask are china bashing. also another hot topic at apac the crisis in the eurozone this is on the minds of many including top economists marty ramsey economist nouriel roubini and the international conference in moscow here's his take on some of the potential scenarios regarding the future of the eurozone

countries please sign an order to go you know it's been a cyprus of different degrees of economic for scotland financial difficulties a lot more of the need to address the right to refuse private property that's one or more of them for me to have full rights of a euro zone different off of the exit the euro zone banks affect the implies a breakup of the euro zone. well so far the crisis in the eurozone has seen the leaders of greece and italy replaced i think who were never elected into office with these new leaders the restructuring of government came as well so the question now is whether or not those measures can succeed or whether we'll see them go the same way as others put forward by the european elite who have so far failed to come up with any credible euro rescue archies their first takes a deeper look into this question. it was never going to be easy to put it that unite europe seventeen countries of which are now on the one currency attracted

fierce criticism we've witnessed the beginning of a dishonest and downright dangerous president. to revive the constitution but to do it in such a way that you would have the boy referendums in the key member states some might now be wishing me to heeded the warnings to one after another and then the states became to wobble it's least the latest country to come under scrutiny we have been witnessing in the last. growing pressure from europe and i'm talking in particular from france and germany partly due came certainly the european parliament and the commission is going to start quite as a safeguard the leaders of greece and italy good place by people who are never elected to office their way around brussels here in italy with berlusconi now gone doesn't. paying for reforms now need to be implemented to meet. for the

first time since the crisis began talks have now begun to turn to the possibility of exits from. the creation of the cool euro countries like germany seem to be leading the way but i think it's not in the best interest of the germans to keep on going with this i think you know you have you have behaved badly we're going to punish that's not a union in the united states of america. behaved badly imagine taxes behaving badly when you sleep obama is going to do we're going to kick you out of united states of america you know they're not going to be going sense a bad year. has not gone unnoticed by struggling countries was this clear that they see way to spend less now face but the painful austerity measures are being treated like a naughty school child added to the growing strain. community. world so to say there will expose much more ransoms from germany to the times there must

be up to the city to to express a political leader for you not just your own country's book or your of us or your attentions have this by the. hottest political leaders it's working the key to dealing with the crisis the struggling economies like italy now cool stuff even. for the stakes it's really being considered by many the test case for the year if it fails and it could take down the entire fifth the big question now is whether or not those measures have feet whether we'll see them going the same way as previous measures put forward by european leaders. failed to come up with a convincing. third. all right let's go now to the latest in the occupy wall street movements going on around the country this thursday will mark two months since the movement began since people have been camping out in parks organizing protests and demanding

a change to the economic and political system in america and indeed there have been some changes made namely a renewed focus on topics like power a big banks and inequality in america there's also going to great spotlight shines on police brutality after police in many cities used tear gas rubber bullets and batons and riot gear to deal with many of these protesters and the injuring a few of them and over the weekend police across the country swept through many of those camps evicting protesters and arresting dozens of people in portland oregon police and circled the camp for many occupy members had been staying and arrested fifty people who do not comply with an addiction order in st louis missouri twenty seven people spent the night in jail after refusing to leave the park they've been staying in since october first and in salt lake city utah nineteen people were taken into custody after police issued. yes and clear the park and now look at oakland california the last few weeks we've seen police leave peaceful protesters

in critical condition and then back off well now they've returned tearing down encampments and removing protesters one by one our t. is on the ground in oakland so be sure to stay with us for more on new at seven pm our she producer with the cafe novel join us live from oakland but a firsthand look. so let's talk about this it appears things are changing in this movement we may be seeing a shift so what is going on here are these changes significant enough to take the wind out of the sails of the movement or could something major be about to happen earlier i spoke with david de graw in long island new york david is not only going to part of this movement since day one he's been calling for a movement like this for years so i asked him with everything going on in the past few days could this be the beginning of the end for the occupy movement here's what he had to say. oh absolutely not i mean there's so many people who are absent much impressed at this point we are in like an evolutionary theory is that the movement you know where there are certainly camps who are the main focus of the report you

know there's going to petaluma or answer also areas you know people don't need in your endless amounts of resources whether it's buildings and office lease all throughout the country you know part of the story that's new sitting within a sucky pride movement is that these protest camps that we have set up and you know part of the reason why these mayors are saying that there's private once they're the strokes there they're saying these things and to a certain extent it is true because you know a lot of people who can afford their rents you know cops are taking people who are drug addicts and just prison and they're sending them to our camps and we've taken these people and we've been helping them we think they're saying david that police have been sort of escorting drug dealers and people on the streets to

the encampment i lost hangouts there and there are various consistent reports so. here's to dina sansing to this predator but every time they stridently spreaded us that way you know like i was going to say to her you know people who need medical help people who need psychological help people who are growed problems people who need to eat for people who need shelter for all comments at least camps when we are helping them with all of those you know we have problems your medical problems you know we're constantly doing our roots you know lou the system is broken and creating all the social also you know service town problems and they're all coming to look for work around at these camps and we are tressa musician. you know i mean we have been endless now the people who are you know evil people within the one percent you don't even have you know superstar even less celebrities and musicians

they're all coming to us and saying how can we help you because everyone knows the system is broken and everyone also knows that the politicians are acting on behalf of the people who want to campaigns and you know the politicians do you know it's ninety four percent it's time to whole titian's spends more money on a campaign wins the election and up and so now politicians have no fear of the american public so you just bend over backwards with corporations but through this rudiment not only are we demonstrating you know under the mainstream spotlight that there are serious problems in this country but we're also creating the alternatives then you know building towards a sustainable society but a bit of i don't doubt it have to if you can ask you know what is next where is this movement headed you know there are going to lot of comparisons with the occupy wall street movement and the tea party in terms of a cohesive movement calling for change the tea party got several people elected into office i mean what kind of actions are in the works that can turn this from

a discussion into actual action. well it is a group because it is. so you know i mean yes we are protest legal. system absolutely but at the same time you also have to create your tribe and that's a very people who process during that process and that was author and journalist david across. with now in ten years since president george w. bush signed an executive order setting up military commissions to try terrorism suspects at guantanamo bay this was to the bush administration an easy fix a place to keep suspects detained as part of the quote war on terror but to much of the rest of the world get mo was a free pass a place where the u.s. can avoid playing by its own rules rules like the right to a fair trial innocent until proven guilty it is also a place where the harsh interrogation practices and torture came to light angering

friends and foes alike and because of this candidate barack obama promised to change the law make some changes listen. well terrible betsy close down guantanamo restore habeas corpus import we're going to leave by having dogs on top of all that was storing. in a closed guantanamo and i will follow through on a legitimacy is what do see when we've got. them all that is open. represented. and that's where we're going to. refer. all right so just a few results are coming into office in january two thousand and nine the president did sign an executive order mandating the closure of guantanamo bay within the year well it is now november of two thousand and eleven one hundred day is open for business with plans for renovations and nearly two hundred detainees still in custody but miami herald carol carol rosenberg has no doubt spent more time than any other journalist there and she writes it's actually the most expensive lesson

on she says the pentagon detention center that started out in january two thousand and two as a collection of crude open air cells guarded by marines in a muddy tent city is today arguably the most expensive prison on earth caused costing taxpayers eight hundred thousand dollars annually for each of the one hundred seventy one captives by obama administration reckoning that's more than thirty times the cost of keeping a captive on u.s. soil but this is of course more than just about the money there are other costs the u.s. incurs as well to talk more about that i spoke to deputy managing editor of truthout dot org jason leopold i started out by asking him in addition to the money what are the other prices that the u.s. pays to keep the doors of get more open here's his response. it comes down to the fact that where you played the clip of obama stating that you know we're going to restore he is corpus. we're were hypocrites where are you this is ministration has

actually fought every p.b.s. corpus case that has appeared in d.c. . so you know we're very good at preaching but not practicing what we're preaching so it's integrity it's credibility credibility is is the number one issue right now. and there is a lot of rhetoric there's a lot of promises that have been made certainly obama does not bear all of the blame congress has voted time and again to well withhold funding that would have that would have allowed some of these trials to military commissions some of the trials rather take place in what is referred to as article three federal courts here in the united states that's what i was going to be providing the defense department with the money to shut down guantanamo but again just getting back to you know your question integrity credibility that's what i wanted to say you know

president obama needed permission from congress to have suspects tried in federal courts he never got that he also got to bring this out because this is another argument that the administration brings out and something that i think is worth looking at president obama arguably learned a lot more once he came into office about you know just get i think back to the christmas day underwear bomber trained in yemen from what i understand there are quite a few protesters at get no from yemen and that's just one of many examples i mean is it possible that the president didn't have all the information he needed when he made these promises or do you think something else changed. oh i think it's clearly it's political i think the you know first of all when when obama issued the executive order he halted the military commissions he had a team review of all of these cases and they put together a comprehensive file report for the president saying who could be released and and

who should be detained indefinitely which is in and of itself another question that we should be asking as to why but it's political this came down to deal making with senators such as john mccain lindsey graham where they would not get behind certain policies that the president wanted to push forward unless there were promises made that first of all kuantan and i would remain open that military commissions would continue so you know i'm not sure if you're asking what more there is is there some sort of you know deep dark secret i think that for the most part it's it's it's fear mongering and it's politically charged but what about there's notion that president obama you know when he made some of these promises did not have access to some of the intelligence did not have you know all the knowledge that he has now i mean could that have been more of

a catalyst for changing admiring think it's all politics. i think it's a whole politics i don't think that the you know the intelligence first of all is suspect at least with you know some of the detainees we've seen some of these detainees assessment produce these are the documents that were released by wiki leaks earlier this year on the guantanamo detainees and that makes it very clear that we were holding hundreds of prisoners of detainees. who were were innocent were basically sold to the u.s. for a bounty and they've been released we have a number of detainees that have since been cleared for release but as you mentioned the incident that took place last christmas with the underwear bomber. pretty much put a. you know put a wrench if you will in opening up any doors to detainees are

out and the administration is continuing to fight the release. of detainees who. say or should be released because the evidence is suspect and that was deputy managing editor of profound dot org jason leopold and that's going to do it for now and that for more on the stories we cover and go to our team dot com slash usa our second our you tube page at you tube dot com slash r.t. america you can also follow me on twitter at christine for the a lot of show is coming up in thirty minutes how to go with the. flow. through.